I know UIKit
uses CGFloat
because of the resolution independent coordinate system.
But every time I want to check if for example frame.origin.x
is 0
it makes me feel sick:
if (theView.frame.origin.x == 0) {
// do important operation
}
Isn’t CGFloat
vulnerable to false positives when comparing with ==
, <=
, >=
, <
, >
?
It is a floating point and they have unprecision problems: 0.0000000000041
for example.
Is Objective-C
handling this internally when comparing or can it happen that a origin.x
which reads as zero does not compare to 0
as true?
I’d say the right thing is to declare each number as an object, and then define three things in that object: 1) an equality operator. 2) a setAcceptableDifference method. 3)the value itself. The equality operator returns true if the absolute difference of two values is less than the value set as acceptable.
You can subclass the object to suit the problem. For example, round bars of metal between 1 and 2 inches might be considered of equal diameter if their diameters differed by less than 0.0001 inches. So you’d call setAcceptableDifference with parameter 0.0001, and then use the equality operator with confidence.
-(BOOL)isFloatEqual:(CGFloat)firstValue secondValue:(CGFloat)secondValue{
BOOL isEqual = NO;
NSNumber *firstValueNumber = [NSNumber numberWithDouble:firstValue];
NSNumber *secondValueNumber = [NSNumber numberWithDouble:secondValue];
isEqual = [firstValueNumber isEqualToNumber:secondValueNumber];
return isEqual;
}
I am using the following comparison function to compare a number of decimal places:
bool compare(const double value1, const double value2, const int precision)
{
int64_t magnitude = static_cast<int64_t>(std::pow(10, precision));
int64_t intValue1 = static_cast<int64_t>(value1 * magnitude);
int64_t intValue2 = static_cast<int64_t>(value2 * magnitude);
return intValue1 == intValue2;
}
// Compare 9 decimal places:
if (compare(theView.frame.origin.x, 0, 9)) {
// do important operation
}
The correct question: how does one compare points in Cocoa Touch?
The correct answer: CGPointEqualToPoint().
A different question: Are two calculated values are the same?
The answer posted here: They are not.
How to check if they are close? If you want to check if they are close, then don’t use CGPointEqualToPoint(). But, don’t check to see if they are close. Do something that makes sense in the real world, like checking to see if a point is beyond a line or if a point is inside a sphere.
[The ‘right answer’ glosses over selecting K
. Selecting K
ends up being just as ad-hoc as selecting VISIBLE_SHIFT
but selecting K
is less obvious because unlike VISIBLE_SHIFT
it is not grounded on any display property. Thus pick your poison – select K
or select VISIBLE_SHIFT
. This answer advocates selecting VISIBLE_SHIFT
and then demonstrates the difficulty in selecting K
]
Precisely because of round errors, you should not use comparison of ‘exact’ values for logical operations. In your specific case of a position on a visual display, it can’t possibly matter if the position is 0.0 or 0.0000000003 – the difference is invisible to the eye. So your logic should be something like:
#define VISIBLE_SHIFT 0.0001 // for example
if (fabs(theView.frame.origin.x) < VISIBLE_SHIFT) { /* ... */ }
However, in the end, ‘invisible to the eye’ will depend on your display properties. If you can upper bound the display (you should be able to); then choose VISIBLE_SHIFT
to be a fraction of that upper bound.
Now, the ‘right answer’ rests upon K
so let’s explore picking K
. The ‘right answer’ above says:
K is a constant you choose such that the accumulated error of your
computations is definitely bounded by K units in the last place (and
if you’re not sure you got the error bound calculation right, make K a
few times bigger than what your calculations say it should be)
So we need K
. If getting K
is more difficult, less intuitive than selecting my VISIBLE_SHIFT
then you’ll decide what works for you. To find K
we are going to write a test program that looks at a bunch of K
values so we can see how it behaves. Ought to be obvious how to choose K
, if the ‘right answer’ is usable. No?
We are going to use, as the ‘right answer’ details:
if (fabs(x-y) < K * DBL_EPSILON * fabs(x+y) || fabs(x-y) < DBL_MIN)
Let’s just try all values of K:
#include <math.h>
#include <float.h>
#include <stdio.h>
void main (void)
{
double x = 1e-13;
double y = 0.0;
double K = 1e22;
int i = 0;
for (; i < 32; i++, K = K/10.0)
{
printf ("K:%40.16lf -> ", K);
if (fabs(x-y) < K * DBL_EPSILON * fabs(x+y) || fabs(x-y) < DBL_MIN)
printf ("YESn");
else
printf ("NOn");
}
}
[email protected]$ gcc -o test test.c
[email protected]$ ./test
K:10000000000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> YES
K: 1000000000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> YES
K: 100000000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> YES
K: 10000000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> YES
K: 1000000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> YES
K: 100000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> YES
K: 10000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> YES
K: 1000000000000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 100000000000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 10000000000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 1000000000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 100000000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 10000000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 1000000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 100000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 10000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 1000000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 100000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 10000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 1000.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 100.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 10.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 1.0000000000000000 -> NO
K: 0.1000000000000000 -> NO
K: 0.0100000000000000 -> NO
K: 0.0010000000000000 -> NO
K: 0.0001000000000000 -> NO
K: 0.0000100000000000 -> NO
K: 0.0000010000000000 -> NO
K: 0.0000001000000000 -> NO
K: 0.0000000100000000 -> NO
K: 0.0000000010000000 -> NO
Ah, so K should be 1e16 or larger if I want 1e-13 to be ‘zero’.
So, I’d say you have two options:
- Do a simple epsilon computation using your engineering judgement for the value of ‘epsilon’, as I’ve suggested. If you are doing graphics and ‘zero’ is meant to be a ‘visible change’ than examine your visual assets (images, etc) and judge what epsilon can be.
- Don’t attempt any floating point computations until you’ve read the non-cargo-cult answer’s reference (and gotten your Ph.D in the process) and then use your non-intuitive judgement to select
K
.
The last time I checked the C standard, there was no requirement for floating point operations on doubles (64 bits total, 53 bit mantissa) to be accurate to more than that precision. However, some hardware might do the operations in registers of greater precision, and the requirement was interpreted to mean no requirement to clear lower order bits (beyond the precision of the numbers being loaded into the registers). So you could get unexpected results of comparisons like this depending on what was left over in the registers from whoever slept there last.
That said, and despite my efforts to expunge it whenever I see it, the outfit where I work has lots of C code that is compiled using gcc and run on linux, and we have not noticed any of these unexpected results in a very long time. I have no idea whether this is because gcc is clearing the low-order bits for us, the 80-bit registers are not used for these operations on modern computers, the standard has been changed, or what. I’d like to know if anyone can quote chapter and verse.
Comparing to zero can be a safe operation, as long as the zero wasn’t a calculated value (as noted in an above answer). The reason for this is that zero is a perfectly representable number in floating point.
Talking perfectly representable values, you get 24 bits of range in a power-of-two notion (single precision). So 1, 2, 4 are perfectly representable, as are .5, .25, and .125. As long as all your important bits are in 24-bits, you are golden. So 10.625 can be repsented precisely.
This is great, but will quickly fall apart under pressure. Two scenarios spring to mind:
1) When a calculation is involved. Don’t trust that sqrt(3)*sqrt(3) == 3. It just won’t be that way. And it probably won’t be within an epsilon, as some of the other answers suggest.
2) When any non-power-of-2 (NPOT) is involved. So it may sound odd, but 0.1 is an infinite series in binary and therefore any calculation involving a number like this will be imprecise from the start.
(Oh and the original question mentioned comparisons to zero. Don’t forget that -0.0 is also a perfectly valid floating-point value.)
I want to give a bit of a different answer than the others. They are great for answering your question as stated but probably not for what you need to know or what your real problem is.
Floating point in graphics is fine! But there is almost no need to ever compare floats directly. Why would you need to do that? Graphics uses floats to define intervals. And comparing if a float is within an interval also defined by floats is always well defined and merely needs to be consistent, not accurate or precise! As long as a pixel (which is also an interval!) can be assigned that’s all graphics needs.
So if you want to test if your point is outside a [0..width[ range this is just fine. Just make sure you define inclusion consistently. For example always define inside is (x>=0 && x < width). The same goes for intersection or hit tests.
However, if you are abusing a graphics coordinate as some kind of flag, like for example to see if a window is docked or not, you should not do this. Use a boolean flag that is separate from the graphics presentation layer instead.
Since 0 is exactly representable as an IEEE754 floating-point number (or using any other implementation of f-p numbers I’ve ever worked with) comparison with 0 is probably safe. You might get bitten, however, if your program computes a value (such as theView.frame.origin.x
) which you have reason to believe ought to be 0 but which your computation cannot guarantee to be 0.
To clarify a little, a computation such as :
areal = 0.0
will (unless your language or system is broken) create a value such that (areal==0.0) returns true but another computation such as
areal = 1.386 - 2.1*(0.66)
may not.
If you can assure yourself that your computations produce values which are 0 (and not just that they produce values which ought to be 0) then you can go ahead and compare f-p values with 0. If you can’t assure yourself to the required degree, best stick to the usual approach of ‘toleranced equality’.
In the worst cases the careless comparison of f-p values can be extremely dangerous: think avionics, weapons-guidance, power-plant operations, vehicle navigation, almost any application in which computation meets the real world.
For Angry Birds, not so dangerous.